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To shift kit or not to shift kit my 700r4
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:53 am    Post subject: To shift kit or not to shift kit my 700r4 Reply with quote

For the new to me, 87 camaro I was thinking about shift kitting the trans, & may be a slightly higher stall T.C.. Is this still common practice for performance driving like it use to be. The trans is working fine now. It seems like several of you agreed that the trans go kits where the best, to help correct problems. But how about shift improvements for hard driving? Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look into the different kits for your transmission, fi youre looking for those reliability improvements and some performance shifts, look at a reprogramming kit.

Put one in our AODE-equipped 95 Mustang and it really woke it up
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put a converter, shift kit, and trans cooler on. You won't regret it.

The converter swap on my LS1 gained 0.5 seconds on my ET. http://www.smokemup.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1522&

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Transgo makes a Jr. kit for the 700R4. It is basically a performance / towing setup. Makes for much better / crisp shifts. I put it in my daily driver S-10 and am very happy. It only costs about $30 or so. Clay
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

make sure the tv is adjusted properly
this will take out 3rd and 4th if not set right

some people adjust the tv to change the shift

yor 87 could have had a butcher under the hood
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "baby" kit is just really fixes for factory flaws more than shift kit.

Transgo is the right brand, I would suggest pro-built.net he built my 4L60E which is just an electronic 700R4, he will make notes on the instructions to help you get the kit setup right.

The tranny in my car is over 4 years over 45K miles old coping with the current power for over a year and a half, the man knows his stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

any shift kit should extend the life of the tranny......if already in good working order
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The "baby" kit is just really fixes for factory flaws more than shift kit.

You're right, it is. I just liked what it did compared to the really soft factory shifts. Crisp shifts might have been an exaggeration. It shifts like I think it should have for lack of better terminology - not annoying, but not slipping and wearing anything out either. However not a substitute for their full shift kit in a high power setup I'm sure. Clay
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So A Trans go Jr. it will be. Thanks guys. Does Summit, of Jegs carry Trans go stuff? I haven't gottin there catalogs in yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.transgo.com/sk_generalmtrs.php is where you can see the extent of the kit you've decided on...

As for buying- Summit doesn't list the Jr. kit, but here the regular kit-
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=TRG%2D700&N=700+301933+4294908216+4294903956+115&autoview=sku

I have dealt with Don @ PATC several times, sold me the parts for my AODE and I personally recommend him- http://www.700raptor.com/ you will have to scroll down to find the transgo stuff... He has been excellent to deal with. If you don't see what you're looking for- email him and he will either have it, or tell you where to get it Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few guys from the Impala forum tried "raptor" 4L60Es with HORRIBLE results.
Maybe they know the AODE but they do bad work on the 700R4 line of trannies. For some reason this tranny gives a lot of good builders of other trannies a lot of problems, there are guys who can build it they are just a small percentage of those who claim they can.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe so... I was just going off my experiences with him...

Even if he cant build one, he is a good parts supplier...?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 700R4/4L60E need a good builder first and foremost. You would not believe the number of stock pieces in my tranny. A shop trying to thow all the latest crap at this tranny is a good sign of someone to avoid.

Stock servos, stock clutches(more), stock 4 pinion planetary because the 5 pinion that is all the rage is crap. The 4 pinion are forged the 5 pinion powdered metal, they are weaker hence using more pinions and they still break.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what did you do for the input/drum???
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had good luck with mine using a Fairbanks billet servo, kevlar band, altos red clutches, and larger TV boost valve. I had a local transmission shop build mine with these parts. The trans lasted many years and countless bottles of nitrous. The weak link in mine was the input drum which exploded (probably too much nitrous).
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