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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:10 am    Post subject: Suspension for the street/strip. Reply with quote

I have been too long ignoring the suspension, which has been holding me back from running 13's hell maybe even high 12's. The main thing is I run on the street more then the strip.
4 link it or do a flip kit an c notch with slide a link bars?
For the rear
Qa1 HAL Pro Coil-Over conversion,
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=HAL%2DDR4000K&N=700+4294925130+400026+115&autoview=sku
and were going to put a airbag on the pass side.

Looking for some adjustable shocks for the front and drop spindles.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NASCAR has your answer. Company is called Hot Rods from Hell. They use a modified stock half ton Chevy/GMC half ton pick-up truck suspension on the rear. Works great on strip and on the street.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once herd some one say Either drive on the street or the track but not both.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

holy chite Dave! Any other practical solutions that could be cheaper and easier to install. Does anyone remember the company that made some kind of kit for the leaf springs? supposed to be a really badass kit but I cant remember the name.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

85GMCstreetbeast wrote:
holy chite Dave! Any other practical solutions that could be cheaper and easier to install. Does anyone remember the company that made some kind of kit for the leaf springs? supposed to be a really badass kit but I cant remember the name.


Honestly what I would do is remove 2 leafs and buy a set of slapper bars. Then extend the bars to the front eye of the leaf spring and preload the assembly. Make sure the preload is adjustable on both sides so you can load or unload the thing for best results.

Some times I really hate the word KIT. (fits all and works for nothing). You have to get get creative and try things to see if they work or not!

Ignoring the suspension is like using May Pops to get out of the hole.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Some times I really hate the word KIT. (fits all and works for nothing).

Similiar to mine and my buddies saying "Bolt on parts won't". clay
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

clay wrote:
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Some times I really hate the word KIT. (fits all and works for nothing).

Similiar to mine and my buddies saying "Bolt on parts won't". clay


Not saying bolt on suspension parts don't work. You have to be on top of what's going on to make them right. Most kits I have found are exactly that! Most people will not understand how the damned thing works!!! Bolt it on and I'll be running 9s! Shocked That is what I'm saying. Mono springs are the best as one example. Most people think different from me and that is fine! I can't leave the point where I am comfortable.

Back to saying KIT just amazes me when you can build the thing you're self!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

af2 wrote:
Honestly what I would do is remove 2 leafs and buy a set of slapper bars. Then extend the bars to the front eye of the leaf spring and preload the assembly. Make sure the preload is adjustable on both sides so you can load or unload the thing for best results.


you should also do some changes to the FRONT suspension for better weight transfer since thats where most of the weight is on a pickup (more so than a car).

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that seems to be what everyone thinks! Posted this on Hotrod and got the same response. Take out a few leafs and slapper bars. That will be cheap to do too so that works for me!

On the Rear- flip kit, slide a link bars , and adjustable shocks and a airbag on the pass side.

On the front -Drop spindles, adjustable shocks.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

af2 wrote:
clay wrote:
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Some times I really hate the word KIT. (fits all and works for nothing).

Similiar to mine and my buddies saying "Bolt on parts won't". clay


Not saying bolt on suspension parts don't work. You have to be on top of what's going on to make them right. Most kits I have found are exactly that! Most people will not understand how the damned thing works!!! Bolt it on and I'll be running 9s! Shocked That is what I'm saying. Mono springs are the best as one example. Most people think different from me and that is fine! I can't leave the point where I am comfortable.

Back to saying KIT just amazes me when you can build the thing you're self!


Boy did I sound like an a$$.
Sorry just giving a kit evaluation!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the word Kit was b/c it was a 4 link "kit" or Coil spring "Kit" or Lowering "Kit". Summit has a very basic flip kit for like 58 bux or something like that, and then just get the drop spindles, air bag, Qa1 shocks, slide a link bars. Once the suspension is done well begin the motor work!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flip kit, slide a link, and adj shocks all the way around FTW!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 leafs discarded! Traction bars! = instant relief!
After that then go crazy!!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: SUSPENSION FOR THE STREET AND STRIP Reply with quote

I would like to put my two cents worth in, I built a few pro-street pick-ups for people and one of the best/ most economical ways to make the truck hook-up was to build a leaf-link rear suspension. I would weld in a tubular x-member in front of the rear about 24" from the axle tubes between the frame rails or below depending on the ride height and weld on tabs to the rear axle tubes and the x-member that are in the same location for a bar/link with rod ends, be sure the front x-member is lower to achieve a 21 degree angle down from the rear end to the x-member at static ride height. This type of rear suspension was used on some older chrysler super stockers with alot of success. It is like a 4-link but the leaf springs act as the lower bars and you can build some adjustment in by using the weld on tabs with 2 or 3 holes in them. I hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Re: SUSPENSION FOR THE STREET AND STRIP Reply with quote

bmwmechanico wrote:
I would like to put my two cents worth in, I built a few pro-street pick-ups for people and one of the best/ most economical ways to make the truck hook-up was to build a leaf-link rear suspension. I would weld in a tubular x-member in front of the rear about 24" from the axle tubes between the frame rails or below depending on the ride height and weld on tabs to the rear axle tubes and the x-member that are in the same location for a bar/link with rod ends, be sure the front x-member is lower to achieve a 21 degree angle down from the rear end to the x-member at static ride height. This type of rear suspension was used on some older chrysler super stockers with alot of success. It is like a 4-link but the leaf springs act as the lower bars and you can build some adjustment in by using the weld on tabs with 2 or 3 holes in them. I hope this helps.


i would like to see that setup. any chance you have any pics ?

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